Fair use is a complex set of rules and legal precedents. I know that John Cedars and Mike and Kim feels that if you put a notice on your youtube that it is fair use that it is fair use.
John Davis
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The John Cedars Channel on YouTube taken down after posting a critique of leaked videos for Regional (District) Convention
by oppostate inthe wt is at it again it seems.
playing dirty as it can, trying to silence dissenters.. the john cedars channel on youtube has been taken down after the posting of a video critique of regional (district) convention leaked videos.. sounds like something putin would do in russia.
you know what they say, birds of a feather fly together--what a murder of crows all of'em!.
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The John Cedars Channel on YouTube taken down after posting a critique of leaked videos for Regional (District) Convention
by oppostate inthe wt is at it again it seems.
playing dirty as it can, trying to silence dissenters.. the john cedars channel on youtube has been taken down after the posting of a video critique of regional (district) convention leaked videos.. sounds like something putin would do in russia.
you know what they say, birds of a feather fly together--what a murder of crows all of'em!.
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The John Cedars Channel on YouTube taken down after posting a critique of leaked videos for Regional (District) Convention
by oppostate inthe wt is at it again it seems.
playing dirty as it can, trying to silence dissenters.. the john cedars channel on youtube has been taken down after the posting of a video critique of regional (district) convention leaked videos.. sounds like something putin would do in russia.
you know what they say, birds of a feather fly together--what a murder of crows all of'em!.
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John Davis
Yes the videos at conventions are copyrighted, in fact all videos and written materials generated by Watchtower is copyrighted.
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The John Cedars Channel on YouTube taken down after posting a critique of leaked videos for Regional (District) Convention
by oppostate inthe wt is at it again it seems.
playing dirty as it can, trying to silence dissenters.. the john cedars channel on youtube has been taken down after the posting of a video critique of regional (district) convention leaked videos.. sounds like something putin would do in russia.
you know what they say, birds of a feather fly together--what a murder of crows all of'em!.
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John Davis
No it is a violation of copyright laws and if he wants to critique someone then just obey the law.
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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness
by EdenOne inbased on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.
the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.
the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.
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John Davis
Brainwashing is not an accepted scientific theory. In fact, as reviewed by the court in US v Fishman, Lifton's seminal work showed that in order for this theory of thought reform requires extreme physical coercion not just that of mental coercion. In Molko v Holy Spirit Association for the Unification of the World Christianity, not only did the court reject Dr Singer and Dr Ofshe but so did the American Psychological Association and the American Sociological Association. They rejected the theory because of the methodology used in their research. -
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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness
by EdenOne inbased on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.
the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.
the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.
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John Davis
You point out the European Convention on Human Rights which is what I am assuming you mean as the European Court of Human Rights wouldn't have articles. note the article that you point to:
ARTICLE 8 Right to respect for private and family life 1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence. 2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms of others.
Please note that the only condition that is placed is upon a public authority, not a private group or individual. In fact all of the articles in the E.C.H.R. is to prevent public authorities from interfering with these rights.
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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness
by EdenOne inbased on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.
the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.
the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.
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John Davis
Diogenesister sure I would tell him that. In fact, the courts in California told his followers the same thing when they charged and were found competent to stand trial for their crimes. In a number of cases in Western Countries, people have tried to claim to brainwashed by a charismatic leader and time and time again in both civil and criminal cases those have been dismissed or found to be liable for their own actions.
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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness
by EdenOne inbased on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.
the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.
the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.
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John Davis
Even without "lying" what do you think governments are going to do? Even if they went around and flat out said it what do you expect governments to do. In the US Watchtower won the Bryan case in Washington. This was even as the court says assuming all of the facts in the most favourable light of the non-moving party, the person disfellowshipped, there is nothing that a civil government can do to stop disfellowshiping.
Even in Australia the only part that the ARC was able to bring up for disfellowshipping is that involving those who experienced child abuse. A government would have to treat religions differently between themselves and most western developed nations have prohibitions on that.
And I know that people on here like to say Watchtower and JWs are are not a religion but is a cult, but that is not how the law sees it. Even this thought that Watchtower falls under the B.I.T.E. model for cults that is not a legal thing. The model and in fact, the whole thing of brainwashing by a cult has not established a science and doesn't work in courts or dealing with lawmakers. They can only investigate using means that is generally accepted by the scientific community.
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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness
by EdenOne inbased on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.
the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.
the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.
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John Davis
Well, you are going to have your voice heard if the petition is considered. If that makes you feel better then go for it, which you are doing. But I really hope you don't expect major changes by this petition.
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PORTUGAL: Filed a petition to the parliament to erase the legal entity of the Jehovah's Witness
by EdenOne inbased on legal arguments that revolve around violations of several articles of the portuguese constitution, and of the law of religious freedom, a petition to the portuguese parliament has been set in motion to extinguish the legal entity that represents the jehovah's witness in portugal and remove this community from the national register of recognized religions protected by law.
the petition does not seek to ban the jehovah's witness as a whole in the country.
the petition denounces the institutional policy of shunning former members as a violation of basic human rights and psychological torture, and asks the portuguese legislators and judicial authorities to take action to stop this abuse, and suspend legal recognition to the branch office entity until the policies of shunning are changed.
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John Davis
I am not saying that this is, in fact, would not be considered. I am just saying that there is built within the petition laws certain circumstances where a petition can be denied.
I think it will be accepted but that is as far as it is going to go. The ECHR has already ruled in the France case that a nation cannot charge tax.
There could be petitions made with a number of other religions and groups. Catholic parishes and religious organizations would have to be charged because they deny communion to people who support abortion. Jewish institutions would be denied because they require women to receive both a civil divorce but also a Get in order to divorce. If it is part of religions strongly held belief it is hard for western governments to do anything that would coerce them into changing their belief system.